(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[9]KM[0.50] PW[Tsurukame]PB[RazorBrain]WR[7d]BR[10k]DT[2003-08-30]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AB[dd][jd][pd][dj][jj][pj][dp][jp][pp]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: CGoban is great Tsurukame [7d?\]: have a nice game RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes I like it RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you ]RE[W+30.50] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[oe]CR[oe] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[pg]CR[pg]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I decided to try to split of 016 Tsurukame [7d?\]: simple and solid RazorBrain [10k?\]: rather than cower in the corner Tsurukame [7d?\]: very good ] ;W[rh]CR[rh] ;B[qi]CR[qi]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I felt good about this exchange Tsurukame [7d?\]: the result here was good Tsurukame [7d?\]: my O16 stone looks bad now ] ;W[gd]CR[gd] ;B[jf]CR[jf]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: p15 was the move for me I think Tsurukame [7d?\]: right ] ;W[jc]CR[jc] ;B[kc]CR[kc] ;W[ic]CR[ic] ;B[ld]CR[ld]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: good again ] ;W[de]CR[de]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: but I see now that that was an unnecessary fear? ] (;B[ed]CR[ed]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I played k14 to avoid what happened to me on the bottom Tsurukame [7d?\]: here was difficult Tsurukame [7d?\]: right, you coould have played the other way as well ] ;W[ee]CR[ee]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: thatnks Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was the game Tsurukame [7d?\]: i was wondering if you considered C15 for black ] ;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[fe]CR[fe] ;B[cd]CR[cd] ;W[ce]CR[ce]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I wanted to pressure the upper group by cutting at g15 ] ;B[ge]CR[ge] ;W[gc]CR[gc]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: very good RazorBrain [10k?\]: and see what I could get from that pressure ] (;B[fb]CR[fb]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes very much Tsurukame [7d?\]: you denended ] ;W[he]CR[he] ;B[gf]CR[gf] ;W[hf]CR[hf] ;B[gg]CR[gg] ;W[hg]CR[hg]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you will use the same tactics that i use against you Tsurukame [7d?\]: and you'll see yourself in the other person RazorBrain [10k?\]: Not sure I understand but I will try that ] (;B[gi]CR[gi]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: why give handicaps to learn this? RazorBrain [10k?\]: I wondered about that Tsurukame [7d?\]: jumping leaves a weak spot behind ] ;W[gh]CR[gh] ;B[fh]CR[fh] ;W[hh]CR[hh] ;B[fg]CR[fg] ;W[bd]CR[bd]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I thought with the white stones in the left that 3 stones might be to early to extend RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes I leave a lot of those ] ;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[be]CR[be]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: and they bite me in the late middle and end games :-( ] ;B[cb]CR[cb]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: ... Tsurukame [7d?\]: this ws correct hwer Tsurukame [7d?\]: here ] ;W[ch]CR[ch] ;B[dg]CR[dg] ;W[dh]CR[dh] ;B[eh]CR[eh] ;W[bj]CR[bj] ;B[bk]CR[bk]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: how about b9 Tsurukame [7d?\]: it ws ok ] ;W[cj]CR[cj] ;B[ck]CR[ck] ;W[dk]CR[dk] (;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this helped me out ] ;W[dl]CR[dl] ;B[fj]CR[fj] ;W[bm]CR[bm]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes I need to work harder at reading these out so I don't pull my punches RazorBrain [10k?\]: like I did with b-c9 Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok ] ;B[cm]CR[cm] ;W[cl]CR[cl] ;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[bn]CR[bn] ;B[bo]CR[bo] ;W[jh]CR[jh] ;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[lh]CR[lh]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: the loss on the left was quite big Tsurukame [7d?\]: but the game is still good for you ] ;B[mh]CR[mh] ;W[li]CR[li] ;B[mi]CR[mi] ;W[lj]CR[lj] (;B[lg]CR[lg] ;W[mj]CR[mj]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: n10 ] (;B[oh]CR[oh]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was a real problem... Tsurukame [7d?\]: b P12 RazorBrain [10k?\]: I thought of playing that but wanted to consolidate with m13 Tsurukame [7d?\]: what about N10? RazorBrain [10k?\]: was that okay? Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was so slow.... RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes ] ;W[fp]CR[fp] ;B[dq]CR[dq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I knew it right after I played it Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see ] ;W[nq]CR[nq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: but what instead of p12 Tsurukame [7d?\]: i had to cpture something in order to win ] ;B[pq]CR[pq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes G4 is big ] ;W[jn]CR[jn] ;B[io]CR[io] ;W[hm]CR[hm] ;B[el]CR[el]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was good! again ] ;W[dm]CR[dm] ;B[dn]CR[dn]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: at this point I realised I was in trouble ] ;W[em]CR[em] ;B[fm]CR[fm] ;W[en]CR[en] (;B[hl]CR[hl]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was not good Tsurukame [7d?\]: right! ] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[eo]CR[eo] ;W[fn]CR[fn] ;B[im]CR[im] ;W[in]CR[in] ;B[gm]CR[gm] ;W[hn]CR[hn]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: lots of weakness here Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes, on both area ] ;B[gk]CR[gk] ;W[fr]CR[fr] ;B[er]CR[er] ;W[oo]CR[oo] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[np]CR[np] ;W[op]CR[op] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[mp]CR[mp]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: and now the blunder... ] ;B[no]CR[no] ;W[nn]CR[nn]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: :) ] ;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[lo]CR[lo] ;B[mn]CR[mn] ;W[mm]CR[mm] ;B[ln]CR[ln] ;W[lm]CR[lm] ;B[kn]CR[kn] ;W[ko]CR[ko] ;B[km]CR[km] ;W[kl]CR[kl]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I was wondering what I didn't see RazorBrain [10k?\]: Now I know :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: :) ] ;B[nr]CR[nr] ;W[jm]CR[jm] ;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: M3 was perfecrt RazorBrain [10k?\]: I read this out three times but always missed the cuttting point RazorBrain [10k?\]: I read only the immeadiate ladder and not the follow on ] ;W[fl]CR[fl]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see... ] ;B[gl]CR[gl] ;W[di]CR[di] ;B[ej]CR[ej]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: no way to kill you... ] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[mr]CR[mr] ;W[kq]CR[kq] ;B[kr]CR[kr]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I knew I was in trouble when you continued playing, but I wanted to see what I had not seen ] ;W[jq]CR[jq] ;B[jr]CR[jr] ;W[iq]LB[ei:A][fi:B][hj:C]CR[iq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: you mean the three stones at the top RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay that is very helpful Tsurukame [7d?\]: didn;t you worry why i didn;t try to kill? Tsurukame [7d?\]: w A, b B, w C for example Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is a very important aspect of the game Tsurukame [7d?\]: if the other doesn't play some moves we;re worried, maybe he knows there;s nothing RazorBrain [10k?\]: I wondered Tsurukame [7d?\]: if you think carefully, you can find the reason too RazorBrain [10k?\]: but I thought you were just waiting to get around to that Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see Tsurukame [7d?\]: however, the center group (if dead) is enough to win Tsurukame [7d?\]: so i would have tried to kill it immediately Tsurukame [7d?\]: but, it wasn;t possible Tsurukame [7d?\]: think of this Tsurukame [7d?\]: we will stop here today, unless you have another question RazorBrain [10k?\]: no more for today Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok RazorBrain [10k?\]: I need to review this a couple more times Tsurukame [7d?\]: you played well RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you RazorBrain [10k?\]: I really enjoyed the game Tsurukame [7d?\]: me too RazorBrain [10k?\]: ABout our next lesson Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes RazorBrain [10k?\]: good! RazorBrain [10k?\]: I can do next Saturday but I will need to do one hour earlier RazorBrain [10k?\]: is that possible for you? Tsurukame [7d?\]: sorry, not possible... RazorBrain [10k?\]: how about Wednesday evening then? Tsurukame [7d?\]: let me see RazorBrain [10k?\]: I am traveling to the UK the week of the 15th RazorBrain [10k?\]: so might be able to do something one evening that week RazorBrain [10k?\]: we would be only 2 hours apart then Tsurukame [7d?\]: right :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: Wed from 8pm gmt is open at the moment RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes when I travel on business I just look up the local go club :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: :) RazorBrain [10k?\]: that Wed at 14:00 my time I believe RazorBrain [10k?\]: that will be fine Tsurukame [7d?\]: what time now again, please? RazorBrain [10k?\]: you said 20:00 GMT, Right? Tsurukame [7d?\]: 10am? Tsurukame [7d?\]: i mean at your plave Tsurukame [7d?\]: *place Tsurukame [7d?\]: we are 9hrs difference. right? RazorBrain [10k?\]: no 8 pm GMT is 2 PM for me Tsurukame [7d?\]: good RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes but 8 pm your time or GMT Tsurukame [7d?\]: 20.00GMT RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes I am 6 houtr s behind GMT Tsurukame [7d?\]: good RazorBrain [10k?\]: so 2 pm for me Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok, which wednesday, next one> RazorBrain [10k?\]: Wed nesday at 8 pm GMT it is then RazorBrain [10k?\]: When will you send League info for Sept. RazorBrain [10k?\]: Sept 3rd Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes, a bit later Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok Tom RazorBrain [10k?\]: thanks Tsurukame [7d?\]: thank you too RazorBrain [10k?\]: Talk to you next Wednesday then Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok RazorBrain [10k?\]: Have a good evening Tsurukame [7d?\]: bye for now ] (;B[hi]CR[hi]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you played here in the game Tsurukame [7d?\]: to remove the threat, right? RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes ] ;W[bp]CR[bp]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you could live with a sacrifice RazorBrain [10k?\]: the left corner bothers me ] ;B[bq]CR[bq] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[cp]CR[cp] ;W[ao]CR[ao] (;B[do]CR[do]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was a bit careless? RazorBrain [10k?\]: Yes I will learn something from that fight:) ] ;W[br]CR[br] ;B[aq]CR[aq] ;W[cr]CR[cr] (;B[pm]CR[pm] ;W[bo]CR[bo] ;B[nj]CR[nj] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[ri]CR[ri] ;B[rj]CR[rj] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[ii]CR[ii] ;W[jg]CR[jg] ;B[kf]CR[kf] ;W[gb]CR[gb] ;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[kb]CR[kb] ;B[lb]CR[lb] ;W[jb]CR[jb] ;B[id]CR[id] ;W[hd]CR[hd] ;B[nl]CR[nl] ;W[ir]CR[ir] ;B[mk]CR[mk] ;W[lk]CR[lk] ;B[nk]CR[nk] ;W[lp]CR[lp] ;B[lr]CR[lr] ;W[ei]CR[ei] ;B[fi]CR[fi] ;W[la]CR[la] ;B[mb]CR[mb] ;W[pn]CR[pn] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[pl]CR[pl] ;W[ol]CR[ol] ;B[ok]CR[ok] ;W[il]CR[il] ;B[ik]CR[ik] ;W[ie]CR[ie] ;B[je]CR[je] ;W[df]CR[df] ;B[eg]CR[eg] ;W[si]CR[si] ;B[sj]CR[sj] ;W[rg]CR[rg] ;B[ma]CR[ma] ;W[ka]CR[ka] ;B[ad]CR[ad] ;W[ae]CR[ae] ;B[ac]CR[ac] ;W[fa]CR[fa] ;B[ea]CR[ea] ;W[ga]CR[ga] ;B[is]CR[is] ;W[hs]CR[hs] ;B[js]CR[js] ;W[hr]CR[hr] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[oa]CR[oa] ;B[na]CR[na] ;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[kh]CR[kh] ;W[kg]CR[kg] ;B[ki]CR[ki] ;W[kj]CR[kj] ;B[ji]CR[ji] ;W[jk]CR[jk] ;B[ml]CR[ml] ;W[ll]CR[ll] ;B[if]CR[if] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[ig]CR[ig] ;W[ih]CR[ih] ;B[] ;W[]TW[ha][ia][ja][qa][ra][sa][ib][rb][sb][hc][rc][sc][rd][sd][se][af][bf][cf][rf][sf][ag][bg][sg][ah][bh][sh][ai][bi][ci][aj][ak][bk][ck][kk][al][bl][jl][am][cm][im][km][an][cn][dn][kn][ln][mn][do][eo][fo][go][ho][io][jo][mo][no][ap][cp][dp][ep][gp][hp][ip][jp][kp][np][aq][bq][cq][dq][eq][fq][gq][hq][ar][dr][er][gr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ab][bb][db][eb][nb][cc][dc][ec][lc][mc][nc][kd][md][nd][od][ke][le][me][lf][mf][nf][of][mg][ng][og][nh][ph][ni][oi][pi][gj][hj][ij][oj][qj][fk][hk][pk][qk][rk][sk][fl][ql][rl][sl][qm][rm][sm][rn][sn][qo][ro][so][qp][rp][sp][qq][rq][sq][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: Very enjoyable. THank you! Tsurukame [7d?\]: thank you too Tom Tsurukame [7d?\]: the bottom left... ]) (;B[bo]CR[bo]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you had a last chance now to open a ko RazorBrain [10k?\]: I feel one of my greatest weaknesses is life and death in these situations RazorBrain [10k?\]: I lose them all the time Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see Tsurukame [7d?\]: however, in the center you did well Tsurukame [7d?\]: let's see from beginning RazorBrain [10k?\]: I feared I would lose part or all of that group RazorBrain [10k?\]: k Tsurukame [7d?\]: any questions before we start? RazorBrain [10k?\]: no Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok ])) (;B[cr]CR[cr]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you could live immediately with this move RazorBrain [10k?\]: ouch! ])) (;B[an]CR[an]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: right Tsurukame [7d?\]: sacrifice 3 Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was your sente ] ;W[al]CR[al]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: if i defend ] ;B[pl]CR[pl] ;W[bp]CR[bp] ;B[cp]CR[cp]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: no danger here, having A6 played ] ;W[ei]CR[ei]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I did not even consider A6 Tsurukame [7d?\]: and here, i can't kill ] ;B[fi]CR[fi] ;W[hj]CR[hj] ;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you simply cut me Tsurukame [7d?\]: see? RazorBrain [10k?\]: cut? Tsurukame [7d?\]: where? RazorBrain [10k?\]: the white stones at the top RazorBrain [10k?\]: now I see Tsurukame [7d?\]: right Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok Tsurukame [7d?\]: on the other way ]) (;B[cg]CR[cg]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: for the 2nd eye Tsurukame [7d?\]: you could have played here better, sente ] ;W[bg]CR[bg] ;B[ei]CR[ei]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: what about b13 Tsurukame [7d?\]: and again sente RazorBrain [10k?\]: just paranoid I guess :) ] ;W[bh]CR[bh]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: w must defend Tsurukame [7d?\]: you're having 2 eyes arleady RazorBrain [10k?\]: becwhere is the middle group's 2nd eye ] (;B[an]CR[an]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: so can return here ]) (;B[bq]CR[bq] ;W[hj]CR[hj] ;B[gj]CR[gj]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: 2 eyes already RazorBrain [10k?\]: Yes but I didn't see that ]))) (;B[fn]CR[fn]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: g4 would have alieviated the problem with the middle group too, right? ])) (;B[gp]CR[gp]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: easywin for black RazorBrain [10k?\]: how would you have attacked near p12 or would you have Tsurukame [7d?\]: no move in that area... ] ;W[oi]CR[oi] ;B[oj]CR[oj] ;W[ni]CR[ni] ;B[nj]CR[nj] ;W[mg]CR[mg] ;B[nh]CR[nh]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: what about l13 Tsurukame [7d?\]: nothing i can do here ] ;W[kg]CR[kg] ;B[lf]CR[lf]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay ])) (;B[mj]TR[hg][gh][hh][jh][lh][li][lj]CR[mj]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: much better\\ RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes n10 was better Tsurukame [7d?\]: white is not yet alive so you can used this ])) (;B[ej]CR[ej]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: did you sonsider this? RazorBrain [10k?\]: after I played it it seemed pretty clumsy ] ;W[dl]CR[dl] ;B[cm]CR[cm]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: e10? Tsurukame [7d?\]: if white D8, you havre this C7 RazorBrain [10k?\]: no ] ;W[fj]CR[fj] ;B[gj]CR[gj]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes f10 was my fear ] ;W[fk]CR[fk] ;B[fi]CR[fi]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: but you're stil safe ])) (;B[gh]CR[gh]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: just here was the best ])) (;B[he]CR[he]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you could do a lot of harm Tsurukame [7d?\]: if black here RazorBrain [10k?\]: what sdid I play Tsurukame [7d?\]: but the corner worried you maybe? ] ;W[eb]CR[eb]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: white here? RazorBrain [10k?\]: and then youyour atari ] ;B[db]CR[db]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: what if black here? RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes that looks better but I would still fear a throw in of some sort from a stronger player Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see... Tsurukame [7d?\]: black is safe here RazorBrain [10k?\]: and because I am weak at the life and death stuff that fear causes weak moves I think Tsurukame [7d?\]: no matter how strong is the other, you can easily counter RazorBrain [10k?\]: how do I practice that to gain confidence? Tsurukame [7d?\]: play handicap games Tsurukame [7d?\]: i mean, give handicap RazorBrain [10k?\]: and learn from my mistakes like I did in the lower left:) Tsurukame [7d?\]: right :) ]) (;B[gf]CR[gf])) (;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: if it was me, i woould have played this Tsurukame [7d?\]: white next? RazorBrain [10k?\]: ?? RazorBrain [10k?\]: lost my point of reference RazorBrain [10k?\]: instead of? Tsurukame [7d?\]: oh Tsurukame [7d?\]: now i mean RazorBrain [10k?\]: I considered this Tsurukame [7d?\]: and if yes, what white move worried you? RazorBrain [10k?\]: but wanted teh cut at G15 Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see Tsurukame [7d?\]: so this was ok too? RazorBrain [10k?\]: e15 ] ;W[ee]CR[ee] ;B[cf]CR[cf]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I didn't want white connecting Tsurukame [7d?\]: i see Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok Tsurukame [7d?\]: that was a good plan ]))