( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: onegaishimasu ] AB[dd][jd][pd][dj][jj][pj][dp][jp][pp] PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] DT[2003-09-27] WR[7d] PB[RazorBrain] PW[Tsurukame] KM[0.50] HA[9] SZ[19] RU[Japanese] ST[2] AP[CGoban:2] CA[UTF-8] FF[4] GM[1] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: :-) Please translate Tsurukame [7d?\]: sorry... :) ] CR[qf] W[qf] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: means "please" (kind of "let's start") Tsurukame [7d?\]: just a moment please to reconnect RazorBrain [?\]: Actually, I like to learn new Japanese terms RazorBrain [?\]: I will remember that one :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok :) ] CR[qd] B[qd] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is the usual greeting in Japan, before a game starts ] CR[pm] W[pm] ; CR[qh] B[qh] ; CR[mp] W[mp] ; CR[nq] B[nq] ; CR[mq] W[mq] ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: too solid and slow here RazorBrain [?\]: too much to think about :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: :) ] CR[qq] B[qq] ; CR[of] W[of] ; CR[pg] B[pg] ; CR[pf] W[pf] ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was not considering the balance ] CR[ni] B[ni] ; CR[nd] W[nd] ; CR[nc] B[nc] ; CR[mc] W[mc] ; CR[oc] B[oc] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: the corner is alive, but i'm targeting A next RazorBrain [?\]: okay ] CR[mf] LB[jd:A] W[mf] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was good ] CR[ng] B[ng] ; CR[nf] W[nf] ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was not Tsurukame [7d?\]: :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: same as here ] CR[qm] B[qm] ; CR[qn] W[qn] ; CR[ql] B[ql] ; CR[po] W[po] ; CR[qo] B[qo] ; CR[ro] W[ro] ; CR[qp] B[qp] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: I learn a lot from watching your balanced play actually Tsurukame [7d?\]: good, try to use iin your games too ] CR[rm] W[rm] ; CR[rp] B[rp] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: now K4 is the target, yes? Tsurukame [7d?\]: white must split as many groups as possible and kill one of them, in order to win Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes, K4 :) RazorBrain [?\]: Then my move to k6 is stronger RazorBrain [?\]: so F3 does not do a good job of helping k4 or the corner. Is that it? Tsurukame [7d?\]: K4 is weaker ] CR[gp] W[gp] ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is a move you often play RazorBrain [?\]: I started here to give the corner some support Tsurukame [7d?\]: but it's one of the moves yoou must replace in your play RazorBrain [?\]: then planned to do something with k4 RazorBrain [?\]: f3? RazorBrain [?\]: 80/20? Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is 50% support for the corner but... Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is defending D4 (but not a solid defence) ] CR[fq] B[fq] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: after this, K4 is hurt RazorBrain [?\]: E3 then. Okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: so it acts against K4! Tsurukame [7d?\]: for example Tsurukame [7d?\]: and weakens K4 RazorBrain [?\]: I was too nervous to try to let k4 live by itself, but now I see it is possible ] CR[gq] W[gq] ; CR[jn] B[jn] ; CR[cn] W[cn] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was a good move! RazorBrain [?\]: :) RazorBrain [?\]: I need a few of those :-) Tsurukame [7d?\]: slowly, you started to improve your play ] CR[cp] B[cp] ; CR[fn] W[fn] ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: also good RazorBrain [?\]: Yes this is where I managed to do something by pressuring you Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is good because it reduces white's posibilities in this area ] CR[cc] B[cc] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: you needed an impulse :) ] CR[gd] W[gd] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: good again ] CR[ld] B[ld] ; CR[md] W[md] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: Why is the 3-3 in the upper left good. I RazorBrain [?\]: I thought those plays should wait Tsurukame [7d?\]: this counterattack was very powerful ] CR[kf] B[kf] ; CR[lg] W[lg] ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: prefered to defend ] CR[cg] B[cg] ; CR[li] W[li] ; CR[kh] B[kh] ; CR[lh] W[lh] ; CR[gf] B[gf] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: i took the initiative now ] CR[qk] W[qk] ; CR[pl] B[pl] ; CR[pk] W[pk] ; CR[ol] B[ol] ; CR[ok] W[ok] ( ; CR[oo] B[oo] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this gives be a base RazorBrain [?\]: yes now you are connected Tsurukame [7d?\]: also connect, yes ] CR[rl] W[rl] ; CR[pn] B[pn] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: and your stones are trapped ] CR[mj] W[mj] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: Yes I felt very fortunate in the end just to save them Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes! that sequence was very nice ] CR[kr] B[kr] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: here i can't do much if you play carefully ] CR[ee] W[ee] ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: was F16 okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: the proverb says: "don't touch a weak stone" ] CR[fd] B[fd] ; CR[fe] W[fe] ; CR[fc] B[fc] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: ans now my cetner stones are better off Tsurukame [7d?\]: see? RazorBrain [?\]: yes I watched you do that to me :-) Tsurukame [7d?\]: i'm strong now, as a result of your hand to hand combat ] CR[ge] W[ge] ; CR[hc] B[hc] ; CR[gc] W[gc] ; CR[gb] B[gb] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: and myG14 stone is weak Tsurukame [7d?\]: much harder to surround 6 stones now RazorBrain [?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: right, in the process G14 got weak ] CR[ie] W[ie] ; CR[hd] B[hd] ; CR[he] W[he] ; CR[je] B[je] ; CR[id] W[id] ; CR[ic] B[ic] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: and the center stones became a huge liability that cost me a lot to save Tsurukame [7d?\]: here you had a sequence ] CR[jc] W[jc] ( ; CR[ib] B[ib] ; CR[kb] W[kb] ; CR[kc] B[kc] ; CR[jb] W[jb] ; CR[if] B[if] ; CR[hf] W[hf] ; CR[ig] B[ig] ; CR[gh] W[gh] ; CR[hi] B[hi] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: now it's even harder to catch RazorBrain [?\]: At this point I was tryint ot do something to give my center stones a chance Tsurukame [7d?\]: and your center group is not yet alive ] CR[fj] W[fj] ; CR[gi] B[gi] ; CR[fi] W[fi] ; CR[fh] B[fh] ; CR[eh] W[eh] ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: I had given up on catching you at this point :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: you hesitated here ] CR[hh] B[hh] ; CR[fg] W[fg] ; CR[fl] B[fl] ; CR[ek] W[ek] ; CR[fk] B[fk] ; CR[ej] W[ej] ; CR[el] B[el] ; CR[dl] W[dl] ; CR[en] B[en] ; CR[eo] W[eo] ; CR[ep] B[ep] ; CR[fo] W[fo] ; CR[dk] B[dk] ; CR[cl] W[cl] ; CR[ci] B[ci] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: problem is that you're not yet alive in the center RazorBrain [?\]: H9 was key Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes ] CR[hk] W[hk] ; CR[lc] B[lc] ; CR[ia] W[ia] ; CR[hb] B[hb] ; CR[fb] W[fb] ; CR[eb] B[eb] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: I saw it but not before you had a chance to play it :) ] CR[mb] W[mb] ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was a mistake ] CR[lf] B[lf] ; CR[re] W[re] ; CR[rd] B[rd] ; CR[jl] W[jl] ; CR[kl] B[kl] ; CR[jk] W[jk] ; CR[kk] B[kk] ; CR[kj] W[kj] ; CR[ki] B[ki] ; CR[lj] W[lj] ; CR[ij] B[ij] ; CR[kg] W[kg] ; CR[jh] B[jh] ; CR[km] W[km] ; CR[hj] B[hj] ; CR[hl] W[hl] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: I felt good about being able to read this out and save the group Tsurukame [7d?\]: you finally lived but spent many moves there RazorBrain [?\]: yes it cost me ] CR[hg] B[hg] ; CR[nr] W[nr] ; CR[or] B[or] ; CR[np] W[np] ; CR[oq] B[oq] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: and now this... RazorBrain [?\]: but after I failed to connect at k8 I had to try to save it Tsurukame [7d?\]: very hard to live now Tsurukame [7d?\]: and the game is compromised RazorBrain [?\]: yes k8 was key Tsurukame [7d?\]: from here on was more a question of reading RazorBrain [?\]: It cost me many moves and my bottom center group RazorBrain [?\]: Ouch! Tsurukame [7d?\]: you did well on the right though RazorBrain [?\]: I was shocked that I suceeded actually ] CR[ln] W[ln] ; CR[kn] B[kn] ; CR[lm] W[lm] ; CR[lo] B[lo] ; CR[nn] W[nn] ; CR[nm] B[nm] ; CR[mo] W[mo] ; CR[lp] B[lp] ; CR[lq] W[lq] ; CR[kq] B[kq] ; CR[ir] W[ir] ; CR[nk] B[nk] ; CR[nj] W[nj] ; CR[oj] B[oj] ; CR[qj] W[qj] ; CR[pi] B[pi] ; CR[ri] W[ri] ; CR[qi] B[qi] ; CR[rh] W[rh] ; CR[qg] B[qg] ; CR[rg] W[rg] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: i couldn't stop it Tsurukame [7d?\]: i was l;osing any semeai, if starting it... RazorBrain [?\]: semeai? Tsurukame [7d?\]: i guess this was a warming up for you Tsurukame [7d?\]: semeai=capturing race RazorBrain [?\]: okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: we will stop here today RazorBrain [?\]: can we take just a moment on the last corner RazorBrain [?\]: The monkey jump really bothered me Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok Tsurukame [7d?\]: 2 minutes ] CR[oh] B[oh] ; CR[gr] W[gr] ; CR[fr] B[fr] ; CR[bo] W[bo] ; CR[bp] B[bp] ; CR[le] W[le] ; CR[ii] B[ii] ; CR[pa] W[pa] ( ; CR[pb] B[pb] ; CR[oa] W[oa] ; CR[ob] B[ob] ; CR[qa] W[qa] ; CR[qb] B[qb] ; CR[ra] W[ra] ; CR[rb] B[rb] ; CR[na] W[na] ; CR[io] B[io] ; CR[ko] W[ko] ; CR[jm] B[jm] ; CR[hn] W[hn] ; CR[df] B[df] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: we can stop here and comment ] CR[gg] W[gg] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: the start wasn't so good but after that you played very well Tsurukame [7d?\]: the last part of middle game you started to make mistakes again ] CR[ed] B[ed] ) ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: yes that's all Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was correct RazorBrain [?\]: what shold I have done Tsurukame [7d?\]: (i have a lesson ini 3 minutes :) RazorBrain [?\]: I will study that as I would never have thought of it. Thank you! Tsurukame [7d?\]: nothing else i can do here RazorBrain [?\]: thank for the lesson today RazorBrain [?\]: I enjoyed it very much Tsurukame [7d?\]: thank you too Tom Tsurukame [7d?\]: next meeting? RazorBrain [?\]: two saturdays from now? Tsurukame [7d?\]: same time? RazorBrain [?\]: Oct 11th? Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok RazorBrain [?\]: yes same time Tsurukame [7d?\]: ok RazorBrain [?\]: talk to you then Tsurukame [7d?\]: see you around RazorBrain [?\]: have a good evening Tsurukame [7d?\]: bye ] CR[na] B[na] ( ; CR[nb] W[nb] ; CR[ob] B[ob] ; CR[oa] W[oa] ; CR[qa] B[qa] ; CR[pb] W[pb] ; CR[qb] B[qb] ; CR[ma] W[ma] ; CR[pc] B[pc] ; CR[na] W[na] ; CR[rc] B[rc] ) ( ; CR[qb] W[qb] ; CR[oa] B[oa] ; CR[rc] W[rc] ; CR[sd] B[sd] ; CR[ra] W[ra] ; CR[sb] B[sb] ; CR[sc] W[sc] ; CR[qc] B[qc] ; CR[rb] W[rb] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: white can't live RazorBrain [?\]: okay very helpfull ] CR[pb] B[pb] ) ) ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: if you try to connect here, there's not much i can do RazorBrain [?\]: Can't you still cut this Tsurukame [7d?\]: M14 should be the last resort Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is hard to cut RazorBrain [?\]: okay I'll play some of this out later to settle it in my mind RazorBrain [?\]: With this position I would have quickly capped at N6 Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: moves like this should be the first to think about RazorBrain [?\]: and the lower right would have been big ] CR[jl] B[jl] ; W[jk] ; B[ik] ; W[kk] ; B[hl] ; W[ij] ; B[il] ; W[hj] ; B[gj] ; W[gk] ; B[gl] ; W[jo] ; B[ko] ; W[io] ; B[kn] ; W[kp] ; B[lp] ; W[kq] ; B[jq] ; W[lq] ; B[lo] ; W[lr] ; B[jr] ; W[oq] ; B[np] ; W[nr] ; B[ms] ; W[ls] ; B[pr] ; W[no] ; B[op] ; W[mo] ; B[mm] ; W[on] ; B[om] ; W[ji] ; B[ii] ; W[ki] ; B[jh] ; W[kj] ; B[ij] ; W[kg] ; B[jg] ; W[le] ; B[ke] ; W[lb] ; B[kd] ; W[lf] ; B[jf] ; W[hg] ; B[ih] ; W[kl] ; B[jm] ; W[mn] ; B[ln] ; W[nm] ; B[nn] ; W[ml] ; B[nl] ; W[ns] ; B[ks] ; W[mr] ; B[or] ) ( ; CR[le] B[le] ) ( ; C[New variation] ) ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was ok ] CR[fg] B[fg] ; CR[eg] W[eg] ; CR[hg] B[hg] ; CR[ff] W[ff] ; CR[gg] B[gg] ; CR[di] W[di] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was going to happen ] CR[ci] B[ci] ) ( ; CR[hg] B[hg] ) ) ( ; CR[jb] B[jb] ; CR[kc] W[kc] ; CR[lc] B[lc] ; CR[kb] W[kb] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this sequence RazorBrain [?\]: what about J18? ] CR[lb] B[lb] ; CR[ib] W[ib] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: for white ] CR[hb] B[hb] ; CR[ja] W[ja] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: only one eye RazorBrain [?\]: okay I didn't read it out that far :( Tsurukame [7d?\]: it wasn't easy... ] CR[kd] B[kd] ) ( ; CR[kc] B[kc] ) ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: attacking at a distance was correct RazorBrain [?\]: I have read that contact play is for defense, Tsurukame [7d?\]: right RazorBrain [?\]: not offense Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is a good example Tsurukame [7d?\]: white is very weak, just surround him and it's dead RazorBrain [?\]: I was trying to slit the two stones with F16 Tsurukame [7d?\]: if you hit my stones, that involves more effort RazorBrain [?\]: but I like E13 as it still pressures your stones Tsurukame [7d?\]: easier is to surround them and hit only when the eyes are about to show up ] CR[eg] B[eg] ) ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: here first was correct RazorBrain [?\]: I wondered about that ] CR[rl] B[rl] ) ( ; CR[om] B[om] ) ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this was also good RazorBrain [?\]: okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: you alternated defensive and offensive moves ] CR[jh] B[jh] ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: and this too Tsurukame [7d?\]: very important to start a fight here ] CR[oo] B[oo] ; CR[pn] W[pn] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: I had been watching P5 for a chance to play it Tsurukame [7d?\]: divide et impera Tsurukame [7d?\]: you had many chances ] CR[nn] B[nn] ) ) ( ; CR[ld] B[ld] ; CR[md] W[md] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: another option was to attack this right away :) ] CR[kf] B[kf] ) ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: this gives support to the corner Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is 80% corner and 20% K4 ] CR[eq] B[eq] ; W[dn] ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: or this RazorBrain [?\]: F3 is too far then Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: let's put it differently RazorBrain [?\]: Yes D6 is good Tsurukame [7d?\]: this is 100% support to the corner Tsurukame [7d?\]: right Tsurukame [7d?\]: F3 is not a move to rely on Tsurukame [7d?\]: for example if here RazorBrain [?\]: k4 is hurt because F3 induces G3 ] CR[dn] B[dn] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: go5tcha Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: if white attacks from this direction ] CR[jn] W[jn] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: black wouls be interested in having this played, to start buildinig a base RazorBrain [?\]: but then doesn't g3 still kill k4 ] CR[hq] B[hq] ; CR[gq] W[gq] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: H5? Tsurukame [7d?\]: the idea is that K4 is weak ] CR[hp] B[hp] ; CR[ho] W[ho] ; CR[gr] B[gr] ; CR[fr] W[fr] ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: now K4 is stroong RazorBrain [?\]: and the white stones to the left have weaknesses Tsurukame [7d?\]: right RazorBrain [?\]: f3 and g5 Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes ] CR[hr] B[hr] ) ( ; C[Tsurukame [7d?\]: then you had this ] CR[jn] B[jn] ; CR[dm] W[dm] ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: now g3 is the one in trouble RazorBrain [?\]: g4 Tsurukame [7d?\]: right! Tsurukame [7d?\]: D4 is a strong stone, being close to the corner RazorBrain [?\]: and d7 ] CR[en] B[en] ) ) ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: yes I missed that one twice :( Tsurukame [7d?\]: this hurts me most RazorBrain [?\]: again pressure on white Tsurukame [7d?\]: put yourself in my shoes Tsurukame [7d?\]: and think of what move would bother you most Tsurukame [7d?\]: and play that one RazorBrain [?\]: Hmmmmm I know I need to do that but I rarely do it in a game Tsurukame [7d?\]: it's the right way RazorBrain [?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: at least you learn something RazorBrain [?\]: :-) RazorBrain [?\]: yes Tsurukame [7d?\]: think big RazorBrain [?\]: :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: it wasn't a bad game RazorBrain [?\]: I'm 2 meters tall. You would think I would do that naturally :-) Tsurukame [7d?\]: hehe ] CR[on] B[on] ; W[qm] ) ) ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: I was trying to keep this group flexible so that you didn't cut them off quickly for a large solid base RazorBrain [?\]: okay Tsurukame [7d?\]: yes, but you have 3 stones RazorBrain [?\]: but I felt that O16 would have invited a strong attack on my center right stones, no? Tsurukame [7d?\]: if you make a group of 3 in the corner too, then the position is well balanced RazorBrain [?\]: I see Tsurukame [7d?\]: which of the 3 is bothering you most? Tsurukame [7d?\]: or another one perhaps? RazorBrain [?\]: I would have 2 groups of 3 to your one. I should still be okay. Is that it? Tsurukame [7d?\]: sure Tsurukame [7d?\]: if you think in these terms, you keep the position good for you RazorBrain [?\]: I think itis a generaly parinoia rather than a single move :) Tsurukame [7d?\]: i know :) RazorBrain [?\]: okay ] CR[nd] LB[nh:A][ni:B][nj:C] B[nd] ) ) ( ; C[RazorBrain [?\]: yes but I really worry about the 3-3 invasion killing later Tsurukame [7d?\]: this makes a nice shape Tsurukame [7d?\]: that's for later RazorBrain [?\]: I catually considered that thought Tsurukame [7d?\]: now you must worry about different things RazorBrain [?\]: for example? Tsurukame [7d?\]: you must now think of how to keep white separated and weak Tsurukame [7d?\]: and P6 is the move Tsurukame [7d?\]: 3x3 is always played much later, right? RazorBrain [?\]: yes if I had any success in this game it was only where I used pressure on white Tsurukame [7d?\]: correct RazorBrain [?\]: okay ] CR[on] B[on] ) )