(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[Tsurukame]PB[RazorBrain]BR[10k]DT[2003-11-08]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Tsurukame [-\]: have a nice game
RazorBrain [10k?\]: onegaishimasu?
Tsurukame [-\]: yes, onegaishimasu
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you
Tsurukame [-\]: let's take a look
Tsurukame [-\]: thank you too
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: And how do you say thank you for a game at the end?
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[Tsurukame [-\]: arigato gozaimashita (thank you in a polite way)
RazorBrain [10k?\]: oha n arigato gozaimashita
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I'll remember that
RazorBrain [10k?\]: thanks
RazorBrain [10k?\]: oh and
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
(;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Tsurukame [-\]: see?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: no
RazorBrain [10k?\]: what do you mean shape in the game?
Tsurukame [-\]: the position
Tsurukame [-\]: in the game it ended this way
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right but I played it backwards
RazorBrain [10k?\]: :)
Tsurukame [-\]: yes but when we look at this position we don;t know the order
RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes I see know
Tsurukame [-\]: so we can assume you played K16 first
Tsurukame [-\]: because that's bigger than F16
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I was not looking at the end whole board shape in my head when I played F16
Tsurukame [-\]: it can help us tell if our moves were played at maxumum efficiency
]
;W[co]CR[co]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes and with corect timing, no?
Tsurukame [-\]: right
RazorBrain [10k?\]: now I played the left side
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: oops no
Tsurukame [-\]: you played here
]
(;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Tsurukame [-\]: this gives about same amount of cash as the sequence before
Tsurukame [-\]: but it threatens N3 as well
RazorBrain [10k?\]: but leting me play c10 does not do anything for white's left side points does it?
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cm]LB[cf:B][fq:A][mq:C]CR[cm]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I'm curious
Tsurukame [-\]: so far it's ok
Tsurukame [-\]: yes?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: why did you play H3
Tsurukame [-\]: i was threatening N3
RazorBrain [10k?\]: instead of d or c 10
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I htink I understand
Tsurukame [-\]: sorry?
Tsurukame [-\]: look
Tsurukame [-\]: i get a and b here
Tsurukame [-\]: and c next
Tsurukame [-\]: if i played the left side instead
Tsurukame [-\]: here
RazorBrain [10k?\]: gotcha
Tsurukame [-\]: A and B are territories
Tsurukame [-\]: and i can attack strongly at C
]
;W[mq]CR[mq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: plus you have to worry about my invasion
Tsurukame [-\]: so this was a more efficient play
RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you
]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[lo]CR[lo]
;W[nm]CR[nm]C[Tsurukame [-\]: it was easy to make a strong shape
Tsurukame [-\]: now your stones at the bottom are a target 
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Tsurukame [-\]: you attacked here
]
(;W[ip]CR[ip]C[Tsurukame [-\]: but you're the one under pressure
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I was surprised by j4
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I expected f4
Tsurukame [-\]: J4 is leaning on the stronger group
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
RazorBrain [10k?\]: can you explain how yours worked here
Tsurukame [-\]: ok
Tsurukame [-\]: i play close to the strong group and, if you react, i gather power
Tsurukame [-\]: for example
Tsurukame [-\]: if you don;t react
RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes that stone is definately short of breathe at this point :)
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
RazorBrain [10k?\]: which I didn't
Tsurukame [-\]: if you don't react here, it means you strenghten the weaker stone
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I played e4 right?
Tsurukame [-\]: build a wall on the east 
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Tsurukame [-\]: but you need many stones to make that weak stone safe
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: what do you mean stregthen the weaker stone
Tsurukame [-\]: another leaning attack
Tsurukame [-\]: one on the north
]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[in]CR[in]C[Tsurukame [-\]: now this is a serious threat against the strong group
Tsurukame [-\]: i already played 2 moves against it
RazorBrain [10k?\]: and the weak group is all but gone
Tsurukame [-\]: right
Tsurukame [-\]: add one more wall here
]
;B[lm]CR[lm]
;W[fm]CR[fm]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: now I have 3 groups to worry about
Tsurukame [-\]: then complete the capture
RazorBrain [10k?\]: well two as one is already gone
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
Tsurukame [-\]: think of a leaning attack as of buiding an arena
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I managed to save only one of the three
Tsurukame [-\]: then complete the arena
RazorBrain [10k?\]: and the arena is finished
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[er]CR[er]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: but you are the lion here and I am the Christian
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: :)
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
]
;W[br]CR[br]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Tsurukame [-\]: this was a very good move
Tsurukame [-\]: you had to continue the idea
]
;W[ir]CR[ir]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: but it failed
RazorBrain [10k?\]: sorry
]
(;B[eg]CR[eg]C[Tsurukame [-\]: no problem :)
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I just missed that one several times
Tsurukame [-\]: it was a difficult game
Tsurukame [-\]: i guess it drained you out
RazorBrain [10k?\]: :)
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: so if I sacrifice e18
Tsurukame [-\]: let's suppose you didn't play that
]
(;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[db]LB[db:D][eb:C][cf:B][eg:A]C[Tsurukame [-\]: i had to answer these
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
Tsurukame [-\]: so you've got a nice moyo
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I wanted to be proactive with the left group before you snacked on it :)
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I see that q17 is bigger in the end
Tsurukame [-\]: E18 is just a kikashi
RazorBrain [10k?\]: kikashi?
Tsurukame [-\]: kikashi=useful move
RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you
RazorBrain [10k?\]: meaning
Tsurukame [-\]: useful forcing move, more precise
RazorBrain [10k?\]: it prepares for somehting later
Tsurukame [-\]: yes, just staying there it serves some purpose
RazorBrain [10k?\]: like a forcing move
Tsurukame [-\]: for example
Tsurukame [-\]: yes, like a forcing move
RazorBrain [10k?\]: can be ignored if needed
Tsurukame [-\]: same as A-B if you want
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay
Tsurukame [-\]: it makes white's advancing dificult
Tsurukame [-\]: same for C-D
Tsurukame [-\]: so can ignore that area now
]
(;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Tsurukame [-\]: this was small
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I was uncomfortable with it
Tsurukame [-\]: not small at all
Tsurukame [-\]: but there are bigger/better moves
]
;W[jr]CR[jr]C[Tsurukame [-\]: the moment i got a chance, i defended here
]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
(;B[mc]CR[mc]C[Tsurukame [-\]: you didn't notice the danger
RazorBrain [10k?\]: what was the threat
]
;W[lj]TR[lm][lo][mo][lp][jq]CR[lj]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: to make you defend
Tsurukame [-\]: i explained earlir
Tsurukame [-\]: the attack on these 5 stones was very strong now
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I moaned when you played this
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
RazorBrain [10k?\]: interesting
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay
]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[nj]CR[nj]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: because I almost made that move instead of n17
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I din't see all of those working to gether to make a moyo
Tsurukame [-\]: the game's getting easier for white now
Tsurukame [-\]: yes
]
;B[jl]CR[jl]
;W[kn]CR[kn]
;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
(;B[jj]CR[jj]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[km]CR[km]
;W[jk]CR[jk]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I knew I was in trouble here, but I didn't want to lay down and die
Tsurukame [-\]: you let me cut
Tsurukame [-\]: so smaller chances now
]
;B[il]CR[il]
;W[hk]CR[hk]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[hn]CR[hn]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[im]CR[im]C[Tsurukame [-\]: different now...
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
RazorBrain [10k?\]: very complicated
]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[hl]CR[hl]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[eo]CR[eo]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: and intimidating when playing a dan-level player :)
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
Tsurukame [-\]: at this moment white's winning
Tsurukame [-\]: too many prisoners
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
Tsurukame [-\]: it was a very nice game Tom
RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you
Tsurukame [-\]: the fight here was very complicated
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I am noticing improvement in my games
Tsurukame [-\]: yes! i sensed that too
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I am calmer as I play
RazorBrain [10k?\]: and am able to think better
Tsurukame [-\]: very good
RazorBrain [10k?\]: Question?
Tsurukame [-\]: please
RazorBrain [10k?\]: for one of our lessons
RazorBrain [10k?\]: could we go through 4-5 opeings instead of a whole gaem
Tsurukame [-\]: yes, sure
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I still feel like I am not understanding this part of the game the way I need to
RazorBrain [10k?\]: as witnessed by my f16  move today
Tsurukame [-\]: you can prepare games of yours for that
Tsurukame [-\]: F16 is not such an obvious mistake
RazorBrain [10k?\]: you mena get some of my game together that we can go over
Tsurukame [-\]: and it's not a big mistake either
RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes but I feel I did not have a good reason for making it
Tsurukame [-\]: yes, discussing on real games is the best
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I did it for a lack of know what to do next
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay
Tsurukame [-\]: when shall we meet next?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I will perpare and we can do that next time
RazorBrain [10k?\]: next Saturday same time?
Tsurukame [-\]: yes, ok for me
RazorBrain [10k?\]: Good
RazorBrain [10k?\]: Thank you for the lesson
Tsurukame [-\]: thank you too 
RazorBrain [10k?\]: have a nice eveing
Tsurukame [-\]: thanks
Tsurukame [-\]: same to you
Tsurukame [-\]: bye Tom
RazorBrain [10k?\]: byr
RazorBrain [10k?\]: bye
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[ij]CR[ij]
;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[ns]CR[ns]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[sh]CR[sh]
;B[sg]CR[sg]
;W[si]CR[si]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[if]CR[if]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[aj]CR[aj]
;B[ak]CR[ak]
;W[ai]CR[ai]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[ng]CR[ng]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[da]CR[da]
;W[ca]CR[ca]
;B[ea]CR[ea]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[sm]CR[sm]
;W[sl]CR[sl]
;B[sn]CR[sn]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[Tsurukame [-\]: we can stop here and comment
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay
Tsurukame [-\]: very good game
RazorBrain [10k?\]: Well despite my disaater at the bottom, I really enjoyed that
])
(;B[ik]CR[ik]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: how could I have saved this group after m10
Tsurukame [-\]: you had to keep your stones together
]
;W[ii]CR[ii]
;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[fl]CR[fl]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[hn]CR[hn]C[Tsurukame [-\]: there was a cut here
]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[gm]CR[gm]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[im]CR[im]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[km]CR[km]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I was looking for something like this
RazorBrain [10k?\]: but I didn't see it
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I believe I made the cut you talked about
RazorBrain [10k?\]: but didn't follow it up this way
]))
(;B[lj]TR[qe][ej][lj]C[Tsurukame [-\]: this was a very good move
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I saw it's potential
Tsurukame [-\]: completing the moyo
RazorBrain [10k?\]: but was in a hurry to play to avoid an invasion on the top
Tsurukame [-\]: often a running group builds moyo
RazorBrain [10k?\]: so M10 was not just to save my group
RazorBrain [10k?\]: It would also have pressured you
Tsurukame [-\]: a bit yes
]))
(;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Tsurukame [-\]: try to weigh the moves
RazorBrain [10k?\]: sorry which was my move
RazorBrain [10k?\]: q11
Tsurukame [-\]: F17
RazorBrain [10k?\]: can you play out what would happen if you moved first neat f17
]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[gd]CR[gd]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: right and I missed the bigger moves
Tsurukame [-\]: w can push black back a little
]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ic]LB[db:B][eb:A]CR[ic]C[Tsurukame [-\]: for example
RazorBrain [10k?\]: as long as the induced move from the opponent is of little value to him???
Tsurukame [-\]: look
Tsurukame [-\]: a-b is useful now
]
(;W[ed]CR[ed]C[Tsurukame [-\]: then defend
Tsurukame [-\]: so gote
RazorBrain [10k?\]: B was not really building territory for white
RazorBrain [10k?\]: because it was already his, no?
Tsurukame [-\]: white will spend a move to remove the threat
Tsurukame [-\]: one more explanation on this
]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Tsurukame [-\]: in exchange you block white on this side
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I guess I played f17
]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[oi]CR[oi]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: because after playing e18 I was loathe to throw it away
Tsurukame [-\]: :)
])
(;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Tsurukame [-\]: because can cause some troubles 
RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes
RazorBrain [10k?\]: and if I throw a away
])))
(;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]:  I have the potential to play off of it later
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[pj]CR[pj]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: or if you play first, it still has value
Tsurukame [-\]: if not played, there's no danger
]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Tsurukame [-\]: too late now
RazorBrain [10k?\]: so I could have ommiteed e18
RazorBrain [10k?\]: but playing it was okay
RazorBrain [10k?\]: but following up on it was wrong
RazorBrain [10k?\]: gotcha
Tsurukame [-\]: playing it was kikashi
]))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: ??
Tsurukame [-\]: why didn't you cut?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: what about g2
]
(;W[gr]CR[gr]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: that was why
]
;B[hp]CR[hp]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I did not read it out that far
Tsurukame [-\]: must learn to use stones as sacrifices
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I struggle with htis
RazorBrain [10k?\]: !!!
RazorBrain [10k?\]: indeed
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[hs]CR[hs]
;B[io]CR[io]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: I felt that if I could have connected these two groups I would have been okay
Tsurukame [-\]: this is a disaster for white
Tsurukame [-\]: however
])
(;W[hp]CR[hp]C[Tsurukame [-\]: w can connect first
RazorBrain [10k?\]: k2
]
;B[jr]CR[jr]C[Tsurukame [-\]: this 
]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[is]CR[is]
;W[gs]CR[gs]C[Tsurukame [-\]: tesuji
RazorBrain [10k?\]: 1 sec
Tsurukame [-\]: i retain the 4 stones
Tsurukame [-\]: ok
RazorBrain [10k?\]: so the value for black 
RazorBrain [10k?\]: is the base at the bottom for the center group?
Tsurukame [-\]: right
Tsurukame [-\]: and sente
RazorBrain [10k?\]: Yes and sente is vlaueable here
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okahy
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
])))
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[in]CR[in]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: for the attack on f3
Tsurukame [-\]: this power is almost anihilating F3
]))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Tsurukame [-\]: if i let you connect it's good for you
RazorBrain [10k?\]: right
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I have read about leaning attacks 
])
(;AW[ep][fp][gp]C[Tsurukame [-\]: white wants to surround F3 with white stones
Tsurukame [-\]: any of these 3 here are too direct and white will react
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay
])
(;AW[eo][fo][go]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: white will react or black
Tsurukame [-\]: black
Tsurukame [-\]: sorry
Tsurukame [-\]: here also
])
(;AW[en][gn][io]LB[en:B][io:A]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: right but the leaning attacks threaten something else while still building the arena
Tsurukame [-\]: if trying to build this 
Tsurukame [-\]: A and B are double attacks
Tsurukame [-\]: so this is how the idea comes
]))
(;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: ahh extend and threaten
RazorBrain [10k?\]: yes
Tsurukame [-\]: i need 2 more moves to defend the left side
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]C[Tsurukame [-\]: if i defend here
]
;B[cg]LB[cl:A]CR[cg]C[Tsurukame [-\]: you can invade
Tsurukame [-\]: so the left side was not easy to turn into points
Tsurukame [-\]: i get only A...
RazorBrain [10k?\]: one more time please
Tsurukame [-\]: here only A is territory
RazorBrain [10k?\]: no your c attack is not as strong
Tsurukame [-\]: right
]))
(;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Tsurukame [-\]: what about this?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I thought about
RazorBrain [10k?\]: it here was my reasoning
RazorBrain [10k?\]: If I approach first then I can fall back to this move
]
;W[de]LB[fd:A][ck:B]CR[de]C[Tsurukame [-\]: what if white here?
Tsurukame [-\]: would you play A or B next?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: would white be induced to  smiari in the upper left by blacks k16?
RazorBrain [10k?\]: B
Tsurukame [-\]: a shimari is always a first class move
Tsurukame [-\]: if you play K16, a shimari is expected
RazorBrain [10k?\]: okay
Tsurukame [-\]: this method of anlysis is called "tewari"
RazorBrain [10k?\]: meaning?
Tsurukame [-\]: te=hand (move)
Tsurukame [-\]: wari=change
RazorBrain [10k?\]: I like it. It gives a new way of looking at the game
RazorBrain [10k?\]: thank you
Tsurukame [-\]: it was invented some 500 years ago by honinbo Dosaku
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(;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Tsurukame [-\]: this is bigger than A indeed
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(;B[fd]CR[fd]C[RazorBrain [10k?\]: B because I would not want white to take that point right now
Tsurukame [-\]: but this was the shape in the game...
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